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These charges. i will defeat them in court. i believe this is a politically motivated investigation. >> mueller, though, alleges stone did not make false statements but rather many false statements. this is about the documents he said hoe didn't have, the possession thereof. the source of the claims he made about wikileaks and requests he made for information from julian assange and the way he talked to his self-proclaimed identified immediateary and his communications with the trump campaign about wikileaks. stone maintains everything went well that day. >> we had a very frank exchange. i ans...

Heavily suggested that he believed there might have been collusion. it was not only that there could have been but that there well might have been. and i think that's the big difference. he tried to walk it back today in what he said in the file analysis today was pretty neutral. but what we know is when he was really speaking from his gut, from his heart, from his head was last night when he opened that door. and by the way that was not his finest hour. >> i mean, maybe one could say that both specifically and metaphorically to the situation he's in right now. i want to read his tweet. my sta...

President's culpability here in what would be a crime. in his interview with chris cuomo and his subsequent tweets on the subject he said there's no involvement with collusion on russians in the e-mail hack. the only possible crime, so within the last 48 hours you have two things happening. the only possible crime is if basically president trump personally hacked the dnc e-mails, and you have buzz feed saying the president committed a crime by suborning perjury. >> yeah. and you see rudy really making an effort to protect and isolate his client and define down the possible damage to saying, ye...

The president's attorney, rudy giuliani, spent the day doing cleanup after saying this. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign. >> yes, you have. >> i have not. i said the president of the united states. >> of course, giuliani and trump have said multiple times that there was no collusion with russia by the trump campaignch so today giuliani tweeted my statements on collusion haven't changed, the misinterpretation has changed. the misinterpretation, did i read that right? okay. the point is i represent the president, not the campaign. but ...

Writes. the misinterpretation has changed. the point is i represent the president, not the campaign. but from both perspectives, there is no involvement in collusion with russians. on the e-mail hack, the only possible crime. okay. that's gaslighting or smoke blowing. the misinterpretation hasn't changed, whatever that even means. the story, the narrative from giuliani, that is what has changed. and this whole rudy round-about routine is not knew. he's done it before when trying to get ahead of some damaging yet unseen piece of news. here it is where donald trump was deeply involved in the pay...