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Candidates on this stage others say martin o'malley had a good night. nobody thinks his poll numbers will necessarily change as a result, wolf. >> all right. standby over there in the spin room. we will get right back to you. i want to bring if bernie sander's campaign manager, jeff weaver here with us inside the debate hall. thanks, very much for joining us. i will play the entire exchange. a lot of people are talking about how your candidate, bernie sanders, responded to whole uproosh over hillary clinton's e-mail problem. let's listen to it and we'll discuss. >> but this committee is basi...

Address them until we deal with this problem. this is fundamental reality. the practical reality of how our government -- >> let's say you don't get on the debate stage. then the question becomes, you're going to do it, you're going to run for president. you build something here? the proof is in the pudding. if this is really politics, right, can you go out and do the stuff of real politics to build thing? >> the challenge is to get media to be willing to talk about something more than the horse race or the e-mail problem of hillary clinton. to actually talk about what would solve the problem ...

She's not as good at it so that hurts her in comparison with bill. the other one is that because of bill clinton's history, there's been sort of an encrusted defensiveness to the clintons that hillary became sort of the pole star of defending her husband. and it became so second nature to her that i think that's what carried out through the e-mail problem as well. so i think she's had to overcome that. the parallel with al gore is fascinating because mrs. clinton, like al gore, is experienced, intelligent but she's also married to bill clinton and al gore he wanted. >> molly, you went through ...

Going on in the newsroom. and one of the reporters who led the charge is now being called a rogue and a cowboy. there's a lot of finger pointing. nobody's defending the coverage. and back to, you know, why this is. so you're right that there's careerism and opportunism here. but it's a big target. but, look, people say, well, karen ryan and some others, they're just as tough on all the candidates. jeb bush has an e-mail problem that's been discussed in the press. turning over only a certain number of e-mails. >> the times has written about it. >> on page 814. >> pages. we're in the post-page a...

Rogue and a cowboy. there's a lot of finger pointing. nobody's defending the coverage. and back to, you know, why this is. so you're right that there's careerism and opportunism here. but it's a big target. but, look, people say, well, karen ryan and some others, they're just as tough on all the candidates. jeb bush has an e-mail problem that's been discussed in the press. turning over only a certain number of e-mails. >> the times has written about it. >> on page 814. >> pages. we're in the post-page age. let me ask you this, is there a particular way out of this, do you see? so -- >> sure. >...