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And how profound that was exposure and was there anything else, any other circumstance that would lessen or increase their chance of survival. as john was talking about earlier, the people who did survive were much further away from the area that they're looking now. >> when you consider on the man trip, the railed sled that takes miners in and out of the mine shaft. it was $1,000 feet away from other miners who were found dead and they were hundreds of feet away from the actual point of ignition. if you have people 1,000 feet away from the ignition point that were killed. it would stand to re...

Back the history of this e mroegz and maybe it's something that should have known was a distinct possibility, but as many mine officials and health and safety officials have told us, explosions like this are preventable. >> i'm a bit haunted by the words from kevin strickland yesterday and they were echoed by governor manchin today that something went really wrong down there and that's stating the obvious, to be sure. all right, john appreciate it. >> no question about that. >> john roberts for us on the scene. obviously much more on the west virginia mine disaster later this hour. we will tal...