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Who do we believe? >> ed, if water boarding that happened seven to eight years ago just now led us to bin laden and that's the mesh of success, we are in a lot of trouble. it's not an e vektive technique. compare it to, you know, my team in iraq, i went out on raids. our time requirement was ten to 15 minutes to get info. back at a prison, our standard was two to three days to get info to act on. maybe a couple weeks or a few weeks in other cases. eight or nine years to get information and consider that valuable, it's not. >> how do you counter this soundbyte. this is peter king. he says water...

New york times" is reporting that's not the case, it came from the courier. so, there's a lot of misinformation, a lot of cross information going on out there. who do we believe? >> ed, if water boarding that happened seven to eight years ago just now led us to bin laden and that's the mesh of success, we are in a lot of trouble. it's not an e vektive technique. compare it to, you know, my team in iraq, i went out on raids. our time requirement was ten to 15 minutes to get info. back at a prison, our standard was two to three days to get info to act on. maybe a couple weeks or a few weeks in o...