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Nice to see you. >> hey, clayton, thanks for having he me. >> clayton: how in the world did this start? i guess five years in the making, so we go back to the bush administration, earmarks, a long, long history in washington. how did it start? >> yeah, well, if you have any recollection of earmarks, five years ago was the heyday, think bridge to nowhere. at the time my husband and i would read these stories and like everybody else, groan. they would give more and more earmarks to museums. there was a glass museum in washington. a teapot museum, a prison museum, a mom museum and we'd try to get...

The leadership team rick was in suffered a disastero us loss in 2006 because the company didn't want the bridge to nowhere and more ear marks. i think there's a principle difference, not just a label. what are you trying to accomplish? how do you think the system works? are you in the business to change washington, or are you just in the business to be part of a team? >> let's talk energy and 2.50 a gallon gasoline which has become the centerpiece of your campaign. how quickly do you believe you can get us back to that, mr. speaker? >> within two years, maybe faster. when george w. bush signed...

They are very successfully making santorum look like the washington guy that played with the liberals. they have been told you should be more angry at this guy than me and they flood that so the anger is just guided another way, only because of money. no matter how much you would question him or chris would question him he would not attack citizens united because that is who is winning the race for mitt romney outspending everyone he can tell you i know you're mad you should be mad at santorum because he's in bed with the guys you're angry at which may or may not be true b if you hear it enoug...

Money, a lot of pork to pennsylvania and sort of a big government proconservative prounion rather type of republican. romney argues that in time all that, too, will come out. listen. >> i wasn't looking for ear marks. i was looking for money. every governor and every institution frankly goes to washington and talks with their needs and tries to encourage congress to appropriate funds in the normal process and that is how the system works. it is up to the government, it is up to the congress and the president to decide what the priorities are and to balance the budget. >> that was romney respon...

People keep wondering why mitt romney won't say what he would do to cut the debt. his big vision how to attack what he keeps insisting is the country's big problem. the reason we have not moved with a faster recovery he says. it's quite understandable. it's called arithmetic. if you want to cut the debt, you have to cut spending. big time. if you have to chop off government programs big time. what will he chop off? defense? are you kidding? he attacks obama for shrinking defense spending. chop off federal interest payments on the debt? can't do that it's called default. default is what we're a...