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State like minnesota. also if you look at the spending issue he voted for the bridge to nowhere. he -- spending which is the number one issue he has been a big spender in washington, d.c. that is not what the american people are looking for. they want someone who is a fiscal conservative. i am a tax lawyer who has gone to washington to fight the out of control spending. my record is one of being a fiscal conservative as opposed -- i am not trashing the candidate as a point of clarity. senator santorum stood for earmarks and stood for spending. that's not what we want. we have to look at the re...

Head when they look at him and his record. >> santorum notes that you have a paid lobbyist for the state of texas in washington to try to get ear marks and he notes that back in 2006 your state government bragged about getting more than $600 million in highway ear marks and $500 million in transit projects. so again, aren't you hands unclean here, too? >> that is the process that they put in place in washington, d.c. and i will tell you that the reason that states have to go up there and play that game is because washington is broken. we have a $15 trillion debt because both political parties ...

A little dirty when it comes to ear marks. >> that is not true. i took an ear mark pledgemy first year in office and i have been ear mark free. >> chris: you haven't gotten almost $4 million in ear marks. >> the first year i came in i put the request in and then i found out what the ear mark system is about and took a pledge in the first term i never requested another ear mark since and i want. the bigger issue is are we going to continue to increase the credit card limit in washington and i'm the only voice in washington that has said no to increasing the credit card limit. >> chris: several,...

Also if you look at the spending issue, senator santorum voted for the bridge to no, no where. he defended ear marks. he is spending which is the number one issue, he has been a big spender in washington, d.c. that is not what the american people are looking for. they want someone who is a fiscal conservative. i'm a tax lawyer who has gone to washington to fight the out of control spending. my record is one of being a fiscal conservative as opposed to -- and i'm not trashing the candidates. it is just a point of clarity. senator santorum as stood for ear marks and stood for spending. that is n...

senator rick santorum. let's go to cnn's joe johns right now. he's joining us from des moines. i think rick santorum believed in himself. not a whole lot of others, joe, did. but it's been quite amazing over these past few days how well he's done. >> reporter: that's true, wolf. you know, more than half of the republicans who participated in this process the last time around viewed themselves as evangelical christians. born again christians. so it might be a little risque to compare this process to a seduction, but rick santorum has gone a long way. he says the other candidates in th...