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And then the president got into it and, you know, we had a bunch of back and forth over that. so the president put it out into the public. the congresswoman did as well. but let's be honest, she was there in the car with them. presumably it looks like by the family's choice. our understanding is that she knew the fallen soldier and the family before. so it's not like she was an eavesdr eavesdropper, right? >> it's not like she was an interloper. he was part of her mentoring program. for all intents and purposes she's part of the family. listen, jim, i understand. >> you know what i'm getting a...

Work with clinton fatigue? >> maybe she -- but she has, i think engaged more politically than most people expected this year. >> now, wolf, we always like to try to find out if these speeches are paid or unpaid to see what kind of tea leaves we can read. i understand from clinton's spokesman she didn't receive any awards for these speeches, but we do know at least from the university of buffalo, she did get some kind of compensation, about you that apparently will go to the clinton foundation for some charities. >> erin mcpike watching hillary clinton. i suspect we'll all by watching hillary c...