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Kerry credit for pushing so hard and making these talks start again. >> mark, you know about dipl diplomacy in this region and hamas is not included because of their refusal to announce violence, but a strong political voice in that region. a lot of people in the palestinian territories feel hamas speaks to them. how does that play into peace talks in the region? >> basically carved out of this. they're not going to participate and the fact is they are increasingly, believe it or not, mara, very unpopular right now in gaza where they rule. there's an increasingly distress over the way in which...

Decade about how much al qaeda has been weakened by the war on terror, but does this contradict that? do these closures suggest they are stronger than we've been led to believe? >> i don't want to say it's contradicted and david has put his finger on it. the fact of the matter is we've always known despite the killing of osama bin laden that there's been a series of franchise organizations directly related to al qaeda. they've been in the caucuses in the north africa and the al qaeda which committed attacks in amgeria, as well as in libya. there have been, of course, the granddaddy of these fr...

Choices, frankly, should give all of us hope that these negotiations actually have a chance to accomplish something. >> now, david, you were with secretary kerry on his trip to the region in june. with everything else that's happening there, with egypt, with syria, why is the administration taking this on now? this is always a monumental challenge. >> it's a good question. really kerry himself, personally. i talked to other people in the white house, as well. from the beginning when he came into office in january, he wanted to push this and kerry feels he can somehow make a breakthrough. egypt...