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Terrorist. it's china. like donald trump you can always blame china. he's really an eco-terrorist, not a nazi and not right wing. >> the problem is when you use terms like mexicans are rapists, shit-hole country, invasion, one of the things we have seen in this country and around the world is when there is an uptick in immigration from other countries, when there is a refugee crisis we see this fear of what we have -- some people term as white genocide. the world is changing. it will forever be changed. the fact that the president of the united states uses this language, no one can underestima...

Beacon of morality, of justice. now here we are in the reverse situation where it is now the president of the united states who is named as an inspiration for murder and slaughter. this is how far we have fallen in the eyes of the world. >> indeed. the attempt to try to find alternative explanations for this terrorist act, they have gone pretty far. we don't normally play kellyanne conway on this show. we don't. but i will play her today. she might have had the most creative attempt at deflection that we heard so far from this being a white nationalist terrorist attack. listen. >> in the manif...

Most welcoming country the world had ever known. >> reporter: before the mosque attack, authorities say the killer in new zealand wrote a long manifesto expressing antimuslim and antiimmigration views even describing the president as a symbol of renewed white identity and mon purpose. white house officials are blasting the notion that the president's ret lick had anything to do with the violence in new zealand. >> he said i'm not a conservative, i'm not a nazi, it sounds like be a an eco-terrorist, and a ruthless killer. >> and just this week, questions are being raised whether the president's...

Charlotte -- when he wouldn't separate himself from david duke before the south carolina primary in 2016. and he really wanted to hope and kind of use that -- use that separation and play on that hate, i think, because he thought those were the people behind him. donald trump uses hate for political reasons. more than anything else. i don't know what is in his heart but i do know he thinks it serves him well politically. >> and the gunman here, nancy cook, not of sound mind based on what he conducted there but he did allude to in his comments in his manifesto to the united states president. >>...