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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:05:00

Various business schemes. paul s fellow pharmacist and best friend tried to give him advice. i told him be careful. that you don t know the guy. things can happen to your money. and the business went bust, didn t it? the business went bust, yes. by the end of 2003, after four years of marriage and two kids, paul and stacey were over and out, heading for divorce. the father-in-law says the soured business deals had nothing to do with his daughter s marriage going bust. ed ates says paul duncsak had come to recent stacey, suffering from an illness that paralyzed her face. apparently he wanted to be rid of her after she got disfigured. she wasn t a trophy bride no more. paul said stacey was the problem. he told friends she was abusing prescription drugs. she deny it had and allegedly told her father that her husband was selling those drugs on the black market. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:31:00

Jurors why they should convict this grandfather of murder. this is the case of the killing of paul duncsak. bergen county s assistant prosecutor wayne mello opened the state s case talking to the jurors not about the defendant, but about the victim. 40-year-old paul duncsak, a wealthy pharmaceutical executive, how he, the victim, had weathered a brutal divorce from ates daughter stacey, how paul on the day he died was trying to turn the page, on the phone chatting with his new fiancee lori when he stepped into his house the night of august 23rd, 2006. he was inside the house and he said, and you left the air conditioning on. i said, no, i never turned on the air conditioning. then suddenly he started to scream. on the stand, the fiancee recounted paul duncsak s last words. he said, oh, oh, no, and then he stopped speaking, and i heard a thud like a falling sound and ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:54:00

and motive, ates, tells you is where the prosecution s case really falls apart. he said he simply had no reason to avenge his daughter or want his former son-in-law dead. i didn t have anything to get even for. they had a marriage. they had a divorce. he never did anything to me. i didn t have a real feeling for him. as far as either way. and he gambled by telling that story directly to the jury itself. why in violation of all the rules of perception of trial law 101 did you elect to put ed ates on the stand? this is a very intelligent man. number one. the vast majority of cases you re having people who have problems. secondly, he has no prior convictions. he has no criminal record. so you can t read back a rap sheet to him. exactly. so you have that luxury. thirdly and most importantly, he ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:22:00

I said i can t believe he actually did it. they said who? i said ed ates. i couldn t believe it. i have a conscience. i would never have anybody killed. or do it myself. i couldn t. and he doesn t. he doesn t have a conscience. he s a sick man. he actually said he was going to do it, and he did it. and all of my brother s friends, every time everybody got interviewed, it all led to ed ates. ed ates. stacey s father. paul s friend michael told the police the same thing when he learned of the death. he even thought he might try to nail him next. we all walked around wondering if we were next on the hit list. you thought there was an enemies list of friends of paul? yes, exactly. homicide detectives always pose the question, who benefitted from the murder. and here the victim s brother and best friend are telling the police that stacey unquestionably stood to gain from her ex- s death. she would be free to move to florida with her children and raise them with money from the millio ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20120609:20:44:00

You know and you re begging not to be killed, wouldn t you use their name? it seems illogical to me. that s what you would say to the intruder with the ski mask. that s right. oh, no, no, no. that s exactly right. paul didn t know the killer. but the defense had a lot of ground to make up, starting with the defendant s initial ally, which his sister seemed to smash to bits. she told the court her brother had asked her to lie to police, to say he arrived in louisiana on tuesday, one day before the murder of paul duncsak instead of one day after on thursday. on cross, the defense lawyer tried to show that brenda, a nice woman, was easily confused. if i told you that the detective sat where you are and said that brenda ates told me she gets confused, would that be true? occasionally, i do. i have diabetes and i do occasionally get my mind she believed the truth was ....

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