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In the same way. in the 1990s, the internet was a big thing, so maybe that's one of the reasons why that was such a good decade. >> one of the reasons you're not getting that kind of invasion because the incentive for easy money in the capital flows, whether it's into trade, into the swaps market, there's other ways -- there are other things to do with money that are simply much more profitable and less risky than pursuing the innovations that we're all looking for, because there's less of an incentive to do it. anyway, we'll continue to investigate the crime scene and thank you very much for ...

Right. ed krook, who says we're creating jobs because we're simply creating fewer businesses has worked. part of the "financial times" america working series, it's a pleasure to have you here. obviously, no one create 30 million jobs, but environments can create jobs on that scale. >> exactly. and as you said in your introduction there, the really crucial thing is the new companies. that's where new jobs come from, is new business formation. if you look at old companies, this is an amazing fact, if you look at old companies, net, they basically don't create any jobs at all. if you look at wher...

Of the reasons why that was such a good decade. >> one of the reasons you're not getting that kind of invasion because the incentive for easy money in the capital flows, whether it's into trade, into the swaps market, there's other ways -- there are other things to do with money that are simply much more profitable and less risky than pursuing the innovations that we're all looking for, because there's less of an incentive to do it. anyway, we'll continue to investigate the crime scene and thank you very much for everything, with the exception of your indictment of our educational system, even...