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There was a newly enacted 25th amendment -- >> yeah. >> -- and you could have incapacitated -- >> we could have invoked the 25th amendment. we made it -- i may have made a mistake here. i got criticized for it in the aftermath. but i don't think it was a mistake. i concluded that we ought not to invoke the 25th amendment. the doctors had told us they were going to -- that they were going to take the president into surgery. they're going to remove this bullet. and that he would be under anesthesia for maybe four, five hours. and so ed nese and i, counselor to the president, and had been his chi...

Everybody's authorities and responsibilities were. i noticed when i read the document, it's a fascinating document, that you der egated to yourself the authority to appoint, the authority over the president's schedule, the authority over what paper came in and out of the oval office. it struck me that you took every responsibility that went through actual control of -- i'm giving you credit, i think it was a great deal. >> i took the political side of the white house. ed wanted to be in policy. by the way, let me tell you something. i have no better friend really than ed meese. he's a wonderfu...

We'd won, president reagan said, jim, before you go back to texas, i want to talk to you. and so i went to see him. and he said, i would like you to be my chief of staff -- the next morning, i'd like you to be my chief of staff, but make it right with ed. because ed had been chief of staff of california. everybody assumed he was going to be the chief of staff. so i called ed. he was obviously down about the decision. and i said, let's go to breakfast. we went to breakfast, and he wanted to be in charge of policy. and i said, okay, i'll be in charge of politics and making the trains run on time...