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Could it become a big part of the progressive coalition in this country? >> i hope so. i think labor has been critical in delivering wisconsin in any number of races. big labor is about 25% of the electorate here. we have been a strong labor state. but i think we have we absolutely need an expansion of labor. i think it's people's ticket into the middle class. that's what people are hungering for is how to live their life with a little bit more so they can get by. >> last word, ed. the big thing is, 80% of labor membership is concentrated in 16 states in this country. a lot of this pushback in...

Identifying the scrooges in the right-wing. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. >> good evening. >> merry christmas. >> john, you wrote a piece recently comparing newt gingrich and mitt romney to scrooge. what was the reasoning here? >> well, ed, when you start out by suggesting that you fire school janitors and replace them with children, you're getting pretty close to a dekenzian model. there i haven't read all of dickens character recently, as for romney, the tragedy of romney is that while he doesn't go to those stark places that newt reaches, if you look at what romney's been sa...

Security. having said that, ed, it appears that the republicans finally are now on the defensive. the democrats have got to raise the ante. they have to go back and i intend to play an active role in that and say jobs is what we have got to talk about. millions of jobs. we have to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. we have to transform our energy system. we have to rethink our disastrous trade policy. what we have to do is tell the american people, we are on the side of working families who are desperately hurting right now in this recession almost 25 million unemployed or underemployed. we...

Point. but what were you going to say, ed? i interrupted. >> who wins iowa, do you think? of all the crazies, who wins iowa, liz? >> usually, you know, because iowa has been so helpful to the republicans in the past with, you know, huckabee and pat buchanan. so my guess is that rick santorum will take this win and just ride it all the way home to his amazingly christian marriage. >> what do you think, mike? >> it's going to be a guy like perry or santorum. the rest of the kun stri worried about the economy and wall street and stealing money from us and the deficit, they're worried about family...

Democrats and republicans, to make sure that the economy is growing and to make sure that more jobs are created. >> so where does the president go from here in the next 60 days? i mean after the new year, he's going to the opportunity to make the pitch to the american people about how important this is in the state of the union address. but the fact is that the democrats are going to have to hold the line on the big three and they're going to have to try to get revenue. how is that going to work? >> that's exactly right, ed. part of what democrats need to do is they need to stay unified. i mea...