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Police department. he has been terminated by the navy. and now he is out perhaps as the ultimate terminator, taking human lives. >> your thoughts on the probability of catching him in the near future. >> well, ed, last night when he -- when we found the truck had been torched, realize this is a smart, educated guy. he goes down to san diego, allegedly to steal a boat. indicates that he wants to go to mexico. ed, he drops his wallet with his badge in it. come on, this guy is smarter than that. he left it so we would find it. he goes up to big bear, drops his car off and sets it on fire, almost ...

So he has been terminated by the police department. he has been terminated by the navy. and now he is out perhaps as the ultimate terminator, taking human lives. >> your thoughts on the probability of catching him in the near future. >> well, ed, last night when he -- when we found the truck that had been torched, realize this is a smart, educated guy. he goes down to san diego, allegedly to steal a boat. indicates that he wants to go to mexico. ed, he drops his wallet with his badge in it. come on, this guy is smarter than that. he left it so we would find it. he goes up to big bear, drops hi...

He -- when we found the truck that had been torched, realize this is a smart, educated guy. he goes down to san diego, allegedly to steal a boat. indicates that he wants to go to mexico. ed, he drops his wallet with his badge in it. come on, this guy is smarter than that. he left it so we would find it. he goes up to big bear, drops his car off and sets it on fire, almost putting spotlights on saying now i'm up here. this guy is trying to make us look left, make us look right. ed, if he would have been up in big bear mountain last night, it got to 15 to 20 degrees. if this guy was carrying gun...