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York city has sweeping mandates for workers and businesses and might sound too sweeping for some people but 71% of residents are fully vaccinated. arkansas has no mandates and only 50% of your residents are fully vaccinated. does that not show the vaccine mandates work? >> i don't believe it does. first of all, put it in historical perspective, never in the history of our country has government mandated the private sector to require vaccinations. it's generally been left up to the states and localities, but it has been looked at as an education effort in our school systems. to put this into th...

Does that not show, governor hutchinson, that vaccine mandates work? >> i don't believe it does. first of all, put it in historical perspective, never in the history of our country has government mandated the private sector to require vaccinations. it's generally been left up to the states and localities, but it has been looked at as an education effort in our school systems. to put this into the businesses does a number of things. one, it hardens resistance, that's what we see in arkansas but i think across the country. secondly, the courts have struck it down. by and large, the president's m...

Cover of the post, and usually they will rip you, but they can't even, because i can't take it seriously. they are like absolutely -- what can you say, dana? >> dana: one of my favorite things about moving to new york as "the new york post" covers every day. they did not disappoint. you know when he said we have plenty of money in this hand, i thought the same thing. they announced a couple of months ago that they wasted $1 billion on the mental health efforts, but also in the same week they had to announce that they spent about $1 billion on an education effort and got no results from that ei...