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On in the walls of the school. mcauliffe made a crucial mistake in the debate when he shed parents should not be involved in choosing books for their children. >> talk about school issues and i felt as if i was disregarded. >> of course we should are have a say in our kids' education. lawrence: guys,s have you heard from that one woman, a former democrat, i talked to multiple former democrats. they thought they were democrats, this education issue and telling them that they can't be involved, well, they say they are done with the party. send it back to you guys in new york. brian: lawrence, on...

Listening to parents. they weren't helping us be more a part of the can curriculum and the program. they've been ignoring us. and glenn youngkin has been on our side wanting parents involved. he told us straight up that if he gets elected, he wants education to be one of his major initiatives. mike: there's polling suggesting that youngkin supporters are more enthusiastic about voting for him than mcauliffe supporters are. is that what you're seeing in loudoun county? >> yes. i'll be honest, i am the president of the largest republican women's club, but putting politics aside, i've had several...

Post trump presidency of whether or not republicans can regain ground in the suburbs, particularly the northern suburbs around washington which are trending democratic particularly in the trump presidency and around richmond. this is a test. running a very good campaign overall. whether you carve back enough votes to prevail in that democratic trending state. what do you think? >> yeah, i agree with that. the primary issue is trump. are democrats going to be able to stave off these challenges just by presenting any republican in the second coming of donald trump? they sort of did that in calif...

It gives an indication of how tight this is. mcauliffe has strong support among democrats and youngkin among republicans. this will come down to the independents. joe biden won them as he won that state by 10 percentage points. 8 month later and joe biden is underwater in virginia and underwater with independents. mcauliffe acknowledged that it biden is a drag on the ticket. you throw this education issue into the mix. it's shaping up to be -- can't emphasize enough how close it will be. half of the electorate will turnout on election day. >> julie: mcauliffe at a debate in parents involvement...

To blot out the connection to trump and of course what you get is terry mcauliffe trying to emphasize the connection to trump, he said he would endorse trump in 2024. he won't say that the last election was fair and not stolen. he won't talk about january 6th, so you see a clear divide -- >> bret: he does say that biden was elected president as a legitimate president. he has said that. >> but juan, terry mcauliffe won't say that 2000 and 2004 weren't stolen. that's what happened just a week ago here in virginia. i've been a resident of the commonwealth for 30 years, okay? and in terms of the w...