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Leave it to beaver" version of the american dream a challenge. >> you could be paraphrasing the speech the president gave. >> the question is how do you make sure there is a baseline. but i also think you look at what's going on in this country. it's an education issue. we get this unemployment number every week on a friday. that number does not really represent what's going on in the country because there's places in the country where it's obviously much worse. it's much more based on education than anything else. if you have an education under high school, it's under 10% depending on what ra...

To realize that as the president said, hunger is an economic issue. hunger is a jobs issue. hunger is an education issue. that feeding our kids have long-term societal impacts that are crucial for the success of this country. >> in 2013, the usda says an average of 48 million people used food stamps. if you look at it that way, this could have been a whole lot worse because some lawmakers were looking at up to $40 billion in cuts just a few months ago. at the end of the day, it's down to $8 billion in cuts. what does that really mean for the tens of millions of people who rely on this assistan...

Will be your downfall, to quote you. >> detroit had a real serious maybe terminal case of cranial rectumitis. that's a technical term. in 1954, a little half breed indian woman who was born on a reservation southeast of oklahoma never had more than a second grade education issue never had a bank account, but she pulled her grandson to her and put her arms around him and said, listen, larry wayne, she handed him a 5-dollar bill. she said, you take good care of that and don't spend that like a fool because it may be the last one i ever get to give you. she had been through the depression and kne...

Out of what, a faculty lounge onto an msnbc set? that's not exactly what i call portrait in courage. greg, you brought up "lockup." >> the highest rated show. >> over and over, that highlights the problem in this country, not just blacks but whites, breakdown in society, why not have a special on empowering blacks and bring in somebody like you, david, or somebody like you, juan. >> because it breaks their narrative. if you go in and tell them that this is an economic issue, it is an education issue, it is family or blended family units, whether it is mom and dad or mom and grandparents or wha...

Managers, working with mayors. let's work with the mayor, the city council, detroit has a lot of things going on in the private and nonprofit sectoror, let's turn around city government and let's go and grow in detroit. >> the president talked about in his state of the union address, about the importance of early childhood education, you're committed to that here in michigan as well? >> absolutely that was a big part of my budget message. i propose doing much the same thing, we're going to get the kids in early childhood programs because it's important for the long-term. >> you're making chang...