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Repeatedly sort of frame the whole education issue is that it is an economic issue that we have fallen behind in many of the other countries in things like science and math. and if we're going to move ahead, if we're going to keep unemployment low, we're going to have to have a much more educated population. where do you see this moving forward, and where do you see some coming together potentially in the next couple of years? >> well, i see the solution to the problems that he's talked about as having options available to parents to find schools that best serve their children. i think there a...

Go into it. so this education issue is so vast. >> and there's so many solutions, things that work, and we're going to take a look at the charter schools, some of the public schools who have found success and how they have been able to succeed when the numbers show there's a 40% dropout rate with african-americans and hispanics alone. you focus, laser focus on technology and changing the way we teach children because some argue that we're using a formula that's antiquate it and you have to keep up with the times and how kids learn today. >> i have learned you have to grab kids' attentions, if ...

Adults going to college and getting college degrees can't just be pinned on the recession. so there's been an increase in the cost of education over time, the administration can deal with that part of things. but getting people into those professions they believe will be careers for the rest of their lives, that seems to be a bit of a challenge. and i don't know how we address that. that may be bigger than something the president can do. >> it is. of i mean, the president is going to talk about it. he said this before. but again in his speech today, basically talk about how it should not be ju...

Well, that's going to be the key is the follow-up. the president's given a lot of speeches on education. he's followed through on some pieces of this agenda. he's going to try to push congress for some more. but congress being pulled back into town for a rare session, there's not been a lot of agreement on capitol hill lately on much of the president's agenda. so it's going to be an uphill battle on some of these things, even though the goal may be universally accepted. i think the key to look at is if you go back to last year, early in the president's first year in office, he gave a major spe...

>> bret: fresh pickings from the political grapevine. word of a second run-in between a student and north carolina congressman etheridge but this happened 14 years ago. local newspaper reports then high school senior brandon less leslie -- leslie says he ran into him at a football game and he says he asked etheridge repeatedly about a stance on education issue and, "that's when he grabbed me by the shoulders, he stock me and said, 'son, you need to learn to respect your elders.'" etheridge's office distributed a state fire department the former high school principal who said he saw the inciden...