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To believe, that there are elements of the government engaged in activities against the conservative agenda. that goes pretty deeply into the psyche of people at cpac. the only reason it went there is the sense that it was effect iv. the i think it is effective for that particular audience. >> it struck me that there was almost no discussion of russia, despite the fact that it's a frequent topic of conversation for all of us. the only other time that i heard russia referenced was in praise of devin nunes. >> that's because russia is a hoax. as he said, this was sort of trump pac in a way. the ...

Vehicles, just trying to have a show of force to intimidate the crowd. i can't say whether that was effect iv or not. it did seem like they had control of the area around the mall, but just a few blocks away, even though the police were all there in their lines and in their riot gear stores were being smashed and looted. so i don't know whether it worked or not. >> the neighborhood that you are in that has been the epicenter is the neighborhood near where the funeral was, and it's also near where freddie gray lived. i want to give a little context here. this is from 2011.