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During dramatic tuesday of west wing aid hutchinson, they said it's time for cipollone to testify on the record and our panel is back with us. here is one of the things. this is one of the things, pat cipollone, cassie hutchinson says, she was going with donald trump to the ellipse. pat cipollone pulled her aside and said this. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure he doesn't go to the capitol, cas difficult. keep in touch with me. we will get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> cipollone is a value and someone that understands t...

Capitol on january 6th. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure he doesn't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we will get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> today liz cheney is upping the option to testify. how can he not testify? >> ana, he should testify. it's his duty as an officer of the court, and a loyal american. i've known pat a loan time. he can make the to the choice not to testify. if he does that, doj and conditioning congress will have a tough of set consequences as to force his testimony.

You know where he was at? you might want to— you know where he was at? you might want to check— you know where he was at? you might want to check in with him, mark, and i want to check in with him, mark, and i pointed at _ want to check in with him, mark, and i pointed at the tv and said, "the rioters _ i pointed at the tv and said, "the rioters are — i pointed at the tv and said, "the rioters are getting close, they might— rioters are getting close, they might get in." he looks at me and says something to the effect of, i'll says something to the effect of, ill go— says something to...

Often the white house counsel warned those around the president not to let him march to the u.s. capitol with his supporters. because the legal consequences would be extreme. >> i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out on to west exec that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? >> in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversation...

Capitol, even after knowing that law enforcement had been overrun, even after knowing the lawyers were suggesting criminal exposure, even after knowing that people in the crowd were armed and had body armor. things we can contribute to donald trump's mind and also mark meadows, i'm not saying it's a criminal case but you're inching closer to it. >> she was describing a conversation she had with white house counsel pat cipollone where he was urging her to not let donald trump go from the ellipse to capitol hill on january 6th. take a listen. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, ple...