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More now on our top story, the investigation into how northwest flight 188 overshot the minneapolis airport by 150 miles. federal investigators say they will interview the plane's two pilots this weekend. joining me live now, tom casey. tom is a flight instructor and retired american airlines pilot. he's also the author of the books "human error" and "strangers' gate." you've been in the cockpit for american airlines, tom. what do you think happened? >> many times. well, they obviously got distracted, but we're going to have to hear the story from the pilots. but i want to just amuse the viewi...

Is probably, for that gap of time when they were out of radio communication, probably won't come into play. >> okay. both inside and outside the industry, lots of speculation that these pilots just fell asleep. there is no way at this point to tell if it's true or not, but what are you learning about the pilot fatigue factor possibly being in effect here? >> well, there's been a lot of debate over the years as to whether pilots should be able to take a nap, and the faa is right now -- before this occurred, had been reviewing the rules. and there's a push now to speed that up. with this particu...

Would have known that they were basically flying right over minneapolis/st. paul, which was their destination. >> okay. well -- >> you might have heard that there were four military jets on standby, as well, to take off and chase down the plane to see what was going on, and they probably would have shined a flashlight -- or shined a spotlight into the cockpit to see what was going on, but they didn't go to that measure. >> okay, all right. well, thank you very much for that update, suzanne zigler with the "minneapolis star tribune." coming up in just a few minutes, new insight on the mid-air...

And no arguments took place. but other than that, i can not tell you anything that went on. >> joining me on the phone from st. paul, minnesota, is john wellbis, reporter covering the airline industry for the pioneer press. good morning to you, john. >> good morning, amex. >> so what are you hearing today? >> one thing we are hearing late yesterday is there may be an announcement from the ntsb monday. i don't know if they'll release preliminary findings, but what thaiv been hearing, what they've been finding. >> okay. let's talk about the flight data recorder. in situations like this, that's u...

Next on "msnbc saturday," the tale of the tape. why won't the cockpit voice recorders solve the mind-boggling mystery of that wayward plane? in just a moment you're going to hear from one of the pilots. also ahead, a mother in pain, a community in shock and a police force in pursuit of justice in the name of a murdered little girl. plus, the heat, the healing and the heenes. why mama heene may have put a real dent in daddy heene's defense. ♪ and it is u2 on youtube. why the legendary band is about to make history on the world wide web. and a good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. we've...