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I don't feel yet every little piece of that. is that something that would be paid for by the utilities that own this transmission system or paid for as a federal project? how would that be paid for? >> everything i'm talking about is without any taxpayer subsidy. all private investment which ultimately pays a return on investment because the efficiencies that are obtained an the return on investment is very attractive to private investments. >> in terms of the efficiency zones you're talking about, ght miles per gallon, everybody understands that. congress has to let the president do what he w...

An the return on investment is very attractive to private investments. >> in terms of the efficiency zones you're talking about, eight miles per gallon, everybody understands that. congress has to let the president do what he wants to do on that one. terms of air conditioners and other sorts of home appliances, that can be done through standa standards promulgated by the federal government. three, the transmission system, you're saying it pays for itself for the utilities or companies that own the transmission system that may be separate from the utilities right now. >> that's correct. >> that...