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Obviously smart to sort of set up a surrogate operate, a surrogate operation requires you have to message discipline. this president can't coordinate with his own press office. what's the potential for success with the surrogate operation? >> going to be challenging for the reasons both of you all are saying but add this wrinkle, in our lifetime we've seen a clinton situation, some have seen a nixon situation. the uniqueness of this, you have a republican congress, a republican senate, a republican basically special counsel in mueller who obviously has served both administrations, but i think ...

Article 5 is ironclad. that is the word they use over and over. >> i feel like -- >> ironclad. >> -- the "snl" cue cards might have helped, couldn't someone have held one up to him? >> here's the thing putin did in interfering in our election. he most hoped for is somebody might get elected who might relax the sanctions against russia. never in his wildest dreams did he think an american president would not have an ironclad commitment to article 5. >> well, i think there's a -- i agree with everything that's been said so far, but there's a defiance in this speech. i don't thichnk there's a mis...

Context with gianforte when if comes to this trump question. i'll stay away from the issue of did trump directly inspire this or anything like this. gianforte is actually a very good symbol of what happened in the republican party on november 8th when donald trump won. last year, gianforte was the prub can n republican nominee for governor of montana and could not have distanced himself from donald trump. he said publicly i'm reluctantly backing donald trump because his name is not hillary clinton, wouldn't cam wane wipaign with . stay as far away as he could. when donald trump won anyway -- >...