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London and also with us the writer behind "the washington post," "the right turn" blog jennifer rub he en. thank you for being with us. i want to pay another part of the interview with jay sekulow. jake tapper asked him whether a president can technically commit obstruction of justice. here is his answer. >> in this particular case you had a scenario where the president receiving advice from a variety of his government officials was told by his attorney general and by his deputy attorney general that james comey should not be leading the fbi. it is ironic that based on the action that they rec...

Of course, you know the london police and the overall security services have taken a lot of grief for not having kept watch on at least one of the suspects in that attack because he had been on a watch list before, he had been a vocal jihadi follower, an isis follower. but let's reel it back. in this case all we knot this point is a number o pedestrians have been hit in a location that's not where you would expect a terrorist group to hit. so a lot of questions, and i will be watching what british media says because they very carefully in cooperation with the authorities tend not to use the wo...

He did a lot of unethical things and committed criminal actions, but the idea that you can actually indict a president for doing nothing more than exercising his constitutional power to fire or to direct the fbi to stop investigating, that would change the whole constitutional structure of our country and it would not be the right thing to do. >> alan, that is nonsense. respectfully, alan is a very old friend -- >> you can't se ri expectfully if it is nonsense. >> and was my professor. but, alan, there's a reason you lost the case in the seventh circuit. it is well established. it is not only ...

I do believe the president can be indicted and prosecuted for obstruction of justice if he bribes a witness the way nixon had hush money paid to witnesses. >> so you think he could actually be indicted if he did something like that? >> that's a hard constitutional question. he could be indicted. whether he would stand trial -- remember, nixon was indicted. he was named as an unindicted coconspirator, but, remember, he destroyed evidence, he told his people to lie to the fbi. he committed independent crimes that constitute obstruction of justice. my point's a rather different won't. you can't b...

Commit -- >> you want to -- >> please let me finish, professor. >> okay, sure. >> you never let me finish in class either, alan. and, of course, no man is above the law, and it matters greatly here because we have a pattern, ana. it is not an isolated act of exercising the president's legal authority. he demanded loyalty. he said he hoped comey could see his way clear to dismissing the case. there's another eighth circuit case in which that hope language constituted obstruction. and then he followed through by firing comey. that's a pattern of obstruction. is it done with corrupt intent? i'm s...