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use terror for their own professional gain? >> that's what politicians do. >> so yes. >> now, i'm not saying yes. i'm just saying, look at all these politicians. their hacks. but not doing anything other than lying to you. if a politician's mouth is moving on capitol hill, they're lying to you. >> but i'm looking at a politician, and your map is moving. >> i'm not a politician. >> and i feel like you're lying to me. >> i'm not a politician. >> no topic was off limits. like the prospect of prison time over the 23 federal charges he's facing. -- carrying a baby are in the halls of cong...

Cofounder and ceo of all in together, and cnn political commentator, eke up. you know, it's such a time that we're in right now, i would love to hear from all of you in the sense of, we are in a space, s.e. cupp, where there is so much progress and yet still a lot of work to be done. it's a conflicting feeling. how do you feel? >> well, you know, look, i've been in the space for a long time, i'm a gun owner, and i was a gun rights activist at a time. in an nra member before i quit. and a lot changed since sandy hook, sandy hook is one of the reasons i left. the progress has been for law abidin...