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>> this is actually the third time that the school and the teachers have called police on this boy. pete, how about the argument though that pepper spray was better than physically overwhelming the child? >> i'm not sure what world anybody lives in that would argue that to be the solution. he is an 8-year-old boy and yes, he is emotionally disturbed and it is their job to protect him from himself. i cannot see the situation where there is not considered ekts e excessive and that is why we are talking about it, it is extreme. and we have emotionally disturbed children all day long and he is 8 y...