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Most would be attorney general and if you're going to be attorney general of the united states, you can't be in charge of building out a new government. so in that sense, it would make sense that, you know, this is why he is down from that position. they say this is the natural on boarding of the campaign. the campaign team is coming on. pence is involved now. so christie moves away and got another job coming. however -- >> matt, matt. >> yes? >> right, i was going to say, while the nation was focused on the election, there was a bridgegate trial with two convictions. he was not charged with a...

Next, what does the future hold for chris christie? he was the first of one-time gop opponents to get on the trump train but that was before the bridgegate trial and so-called locker room talk when the billy bush video was leaked and yesterday came word that vice president elect michael pence, not christie, is running the trump transition. the christie expert, author of "american governor: chris christie's bridge to redemption." read the tea leaves. what happened with christie? >> the positive way of looking at this if you're the christie camp and i'm hearing this from them over the last 24 ho...

Christie? >> i don't know. i know that obviously, you know, mr. trump has a ton of faith in governor pence. and his connections and his stature in washington. he's been a very successful governor and he'd been a very successful member of the house of representatives and i think now that we're in that phase, he obviously wanted to look at some people to lead the transition for carefully, more thoroughly and made a decision. >> reportedly, said it was because of pence's contacts in washington to play the lead role for the transition but if he's turning to governor pence because of experience in ...