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System happens at the state level. until we can begin to start really making interventions at the state level and turning this around, we're still going to be ware housing a segment of the population in our prisons. >> but doesn't it both work hand and glove? >> there's no doubt, reverend, you're absolutely right, that those who may have a nonviolent offense on their record rf barred from so many jobs, barred from getting a licencense in ma states from being a barber or a cosmetologist or being a licensed elect trigs, or even getting a student loan. so this mass incarceration, this system of l...

Suspect. we don't know what the motive is at this stage. >> we now have a total of 13 fatalities, including the shooter. >> what we know about air roan alexis is he was a navy reservist. he left the navy in 2011. >> there were two other possible suspects. >> they're still looking for a black male in its 50s. he was armed and seen on surveillance video. >> officials say tt suspect never deployed, never served in combat, never deployed to a war zone. he was an aviation elect trigs until 2011 in ft. worth texas. friends say he left the navy because he didn't like getting out of bed so early. aaro...