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Consideration. p it adoesn't mean there will b an impeachment trial on monday. we heard speaker pelosi be a lot more cautious and judicious in her approach to this, and this is her word, the democrats needed to be sophisticated how they approached this. they want to have the best hand possible if and when they move forward with paecimpeachment proceedings. she means gathering more evidence, having more hearings as don mcgahn, the former white house counsel, who nadler's committee is trying to bring forward for public testimony, that remains under negotiation. but that would be a big moment for...

Large ways to the african-american community. he was saying he wasn't sure joe biden could do that. there are other people saying the electability conversation is a fine one to have. but let's be clear, it's the middle of july in the off year and no one is paying attention. >> i want to play donald trump doing his punditry which he loves doing about the democratic race. let's listen to that and i have a question on the other side. >> sleepy joe, these fading fast. the only good thing about mueller is he made joe biden look like a dynamo. when you watched mueller's performance yesterday. i thin...

Nick matter or a mum anitarian matter. so think about who's having the conversation. you see the president. you see the secretary of homeland security out speaking. but there is the humanitarian community, where are the people who frankly can address the public corruption in guatemala and el salvador that can fix this. but at the end of the day when you have a hammer and everything looks like a nail. yes, you're going to end up with military at the border guarding little kids who are in cages. so, this requires a fund memo re-shaping and re-thinking how we think of and treat immigration in the...

>> i think they should kick his ass. [ laughter ] >> i'm saying it nicely. >> nicer than me. you're nicer than me too, go. >> and here's where the fight happens. >> with all due respect to all my brothers and sisters at the table, the electability question relative to the quinnipiac poll, there is no correlation in my estimation at this point between the two and the voters' mind. i think the voters saw that performance by both of those women, very fine performances those two nights and said i like them, and that moves them up. >> do you think kamala harris' toughness -- >> i don't think -- see...

The electability question -- i don't think -- this is the thing about -- i don't the voters are in that space yet, where maybe you have some democrats in the primary sphere maybe. i'm thinking more broadly. these polls are not distinguishing between a primary and general election. they're lumping it all together. you have to look at how the voters are seeing it in totality and i don't think they're making a judgment this woman is a fighter, she can beat trump. >> that's who gets the priority. >> go ahead. >> i was thinking the whole point of joe biden leading is because people think he can bea...