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Russia. >> hold on for a second. >> the mueller investigation, the first person to go to trial, paul manafort, the mueller team, the government has said no evidence of collusion or anything to do with the russians. >> in that trial. >> that's the first part. that's the first part. who is the centerpiece of this grand piece of espionage? carter page? papadopoulos? who is the center? >> can we boil this -- it comes to two questions. did members of the trump campaign knowingly solicit stolen information. >> no. >> number two, was there any arrangement to set election help -- >> no. >> have you no...

The government has said no evidence of collusion or anything to do with the russians. >> in that trial. >> that's the first part. that's the first part. who is the centerpiece of this grand piece of espionage? carter page? papadopoulos? who is the center? >> can we boil this -- it comes to two questions. did members of the trump campaign knowingly solicit stolen information. >> no. >> number two, was there any arrangement to set election help -- >> no. >> have you noticed your colleagues changing the bar saying, so what if there was? >> we should never allow that to take place. if a foreign ad...

If you look at this new york times report, there is certainly concerns for the white house. they cast george papadopoulos as someone who played a nuance role and minimum in the campaign. someone helped advise the president on some of his speeches or weighed in. also, someone who just two months before the election help facilitate a meeting between candidate trump and the egyptian, that's a little more prominent role. >> earlier i had a chance to speak with one of the new york time reporter who broke this story. >> it is possible that the australian, his name is alexander downer, the top diplom...