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so i accepted what he was saying. >> mr. meadows was asking me what i was finding, if i was finding anything and i remember sharing with him that we weren't finding anything. >> what was mr. meadows' reaction to that information? >> i believe the words he used were so there's no there there? >> good morning, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. joined by katy tur and hallie jackson for our special msnbc coverage, taking you through all the new facts, stunning new videos and compelling testimony from the january 6th committee's first primetime hearing on thursday night. and looking forw...

Asleep, rudy is, you know, should be put out to pasture. but it doesn't make any difference because if rudy was the only person, in many cases he was, the only person saying what the president wanted to hear, he's back in, he's running the show. >> in your opinion, in control of his faculties. >> rudy or the president, in my opinion, neither are in control of their faculties. >> listen, stick around, michael because there's a lot more i want to ask you about election night itself, and also about what's going on in mar-a-lago right now. >> great. >> don't go far, we'll be right back. brianna. ...

Economy from 10% that he inherited. we would, however, be better off if we had more deficit spending right now because we're short 9 million jobs and jobs reduce demand for government services and increase revenues. >> unless you have corporations invest a bunch of things -- a bunch of investment in human capital and create jobs to expand business, which is not their character. it's cut to the bottom line. richard wolffe, what does this mean to the politics of all of this? this is a great number on the heels of the president having his lowest approval rating as we've seen in one poll as of lat...

You didn't actually have a grasp of the data and that is the other piece of the platform on which he's built his reputation, this idea that he's a master of the data, that he is on top of the polling and that he is on top of the tactics that are sort of most useful in tipping elections. in this case we have both of those things, legitimate questions being raised about both of those things, and he's going to need to do a good bit of sort of damage control in order to be in this position again. it's interesting though, we see him not retreating at all. in fact, doubling down saying that crossroa...