Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131205:23:32:00
To eventually lead to that, a big race war, everybody getting killed. it was just a horrendous situation. and the deal he was able to strike with the clerk, they did it all quite normally and naturally and democratically. and he did that. he sold the people. who could have overrun the whites, i suppose, at one point on doing it democratically. he really was a soulful, great leader. >> you know what was amazing to me, i was also in south africa in '94. you there as a journalist, i was there as an activist who was an election observer. >> sure. >> and what was amazing to me is how nelson mandela...