Part of, and sending emails about. conversations that she was having with one of the chief architects of how they could overturn the election results, john eastman, so all of these things that they want to speak to ginni thomas about are things that the committee already has a lot of information about, and they're hoping that they can get a little more light shed on them by speaking with ginni thomas. these are conversations that have been going on for months now, and ultimately, now they're deciding a voluntary interview is what the two sides could agree on. >> ali, i also want to talk about ...