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We know which counties they are hacked. so i'm not sure that releasing the name of those two counties to the voters would be revealing anything that our adversaries don't already know. and then secondly, on the issue about who is the victim, i think it's wrong to see the election officials as the victim. the voters are the victim in this case. they're the ones whose information has been accessed. and, you know, when it comes to their credit card information or their social media information, if their information has been breeched, there is a responsibility to notify. and yet here in this case,...

The necessary step have been taken on election security grounds or cyber security grounds to make sure that can't happen again? >> i think we need greater transparency and oversight, congressional oversight to ensure that we are -- we know that -- the full extent of the interference in 2016, what defenses have been put up by those local election officials to prevent this from happening in the future, and then also there needs to be a broader public understanding that we are under constant attack, that we are engaged in an information war with aggressors like russia, and that there are things t...