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Look at this where david axelrod, president obama's senior strategist tells "the new york times" they will likely just open the floodgates. and an unnamed campaign strategist for the president tells talking point memo having the republicans eat their own actually makes the bain story more potent than we ever could have. >> well, sure. and the reason is because, could you imagine if you had these kinds of attacks coming from the president's re-election campaign or a pro-obama super pac. people could automatically discount it as, oh, it's just the democrats beating up on the republican. what you...

But the real question, jackie, around this whole bain thing is this really a question of character? >> that's what they are trying to make it. it certainly doesn't help -- the picture they are trying to paint of romney is as this kind of cold, calculating businessman, right? i mean, that's what's behind all of these tactics. so what the romney campaign, i think, has been trying to do more is getting his family out there, his wife out there, trying to humanize this person who they are -- his opponents, be it democrats or republicans are trying to paint as this cold, calculating, gordon gekko, i...

Jonathan capehart and jackie kucinich, thanks both of you for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead -- how president obama's case for fairness in jobs is laying the groundwork for his re-election. >> no matter who you are, where you come from, there's a place where you can make it if you try. that's at stake in this elect n election. >> i promise you change will come. if you stick with me, we're going to finish what we started in 2008. jeb bush for president? wait until you hear which top republican wanted him to run. but first -- five days to go in the scott walker recall petitio...

Ron paul establishment. at the end of the day, the root of this, it might help romney at the end of the day if he becomes the nominee. think about it. the obama administration was going to go after this anyway. so right now, we're getting some of that vetting over with right now. and while all voters aren't paying attention right now, a lot of them are. and they'll have heard this attack before. much like seamus the dog, which you mentioned earlier. >> how could this help him? >> i think he's developing an answer to this issue now. they are striking back in south carolina now on this, and they...

Massive voter fraud? i know you said it is not there, but i'm trying to find out where this came from giving them all the benefit of the doubt that maybe i'm wrong, that it's not geared for a certain demographic. but have people come up to you saying they are worried about voter fraud? >> no, i don't get a lot of complaints about that. occasionally in an election, someone will complain that a car without a state plates or a bus with out of state plates are bringing people across the border. there are people out there believe there's conspiracy in every action that government is involved in. i ...