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This start ed ed to happen acro the country. just because it's not happening in your state doesn't mean as a voter you're going to not get angry about this. especially with independent voters, those suburban educated swing voters who are the one who is flipped the mud terms for democrats, and will be the key swing voter in the 2020 elect n election. they are angry and mad and activated. >> and rick, those are exactly the people that i wonder about in terms of how this impacts the president. in many ways, the culture war sometimes are republicans. everybody to their corners, but when you have t...

>> well, i don't know yet. i didn't dream of this my spire life. my wife and i were pretty overwhelmed to win this elect n election. talking about dignity of work during the campaign, advocacy for workers without compromising on civil rights and women's rights and lgbt rights. we're thinking about it. i've got to decide in the next couple months. what at a minimum i want to happen is my message of dignity of work, i want other candidates to begin to adopt that message because it's the right way to govern and the right way to win elections in those swing states along the great lakes, the heartl...

Election. your new reporting about democrats expanding the mat. can i don't explain that? >> we know democrats are looking at a very good november. today -- i believe right now as we are speaking, ben ray lieu hand is the chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee is saying they're expanding to 101 districts. these are the targets, the races they'll try to sit, sitting republicans they'll try to unseat. it means they'll potentially invest money, looking at candidates. it shows they feel uncon fi dent. throws a lot of surf boards in the water to try to catch a wave. we don't kn...

All the standard rules have been thrown out the door. we had a very challenging time for a lot of reasons. in part, every time secretary clinton would want to unveil a policy proposal, donald trump was tweet something crazy and everybody would be thrown off their game. you covered this, too, alex. you remember this. moving forward, i think you'll see a lot of democrats running in 2020. if joe biden runs and bernie sanders, the two together will take up a lot of oxygen which is not a terrible thing. i also think we don't know right now what kind of candidate we need to take on donald trump in 2...

That is why robert mueller has to dig in. people in this country have to know things were done or things were done wrong but there can be no grey area left when this is over or nobody's going to have confidence in the government anymore. >> and a lot of people have said that mueller's investigation should be done very secretly so that he gets to the bottom of it without bits and pieces of information dripping out. but then there is the question of transparency and does transparency help people understand what the truth is? what's it take? >> well, transparency hasn't done the government much g...