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>> saying it's quite likely that the intelligence community, not only in the united states, alex, but across the western allies, is providing clandestine assistance here. not in any way to downplay or denigrate the incredible successes militarily of the ukraine military, resilience of the ukraine people, but let's understand something. it's unlikely those successes are entirely on their own and quite likely beneath the surface what we're watching on our television screens every evening, beneath what the u.s. government is admitting to in aid and support, there is a covert aspect to this. espio...

On the m.i. 6 website. they advertise for analysts who stay at home and analyze and field officers who go out into the field and recruit spies as agents for the united kingdom. he was in this jumbled interrogation and said he did both jobs. i happen to know because i spent many years studying british intelligence. analysts rarely, if ever, are asked to conduct field operations and certainly not attempt to recruit agents, which is a specialist task which takes many, many years of training. so, the evidence such as it was provided to us was, in my view, extremely inconclusive as proof of his rol...

You refuse. but on collusion, we're willing to accept these written answers. and i think if that is where we are going, i think it makes sense in the sense that collusion, they don't really need trump to come in for an interview for that. that is going to be a case, if there's a case there, which i think there is based on documents, e-mails, electronic intercepts, other witnesses, insiders, so much other evidence you don't need trump to explain that to them or give his false denials, frankly. >> before we get to the professionalzation, ask about this quiet period. what's your read.

But maybe co-conspirator. he may have struck a deal. they will talk to him and listen to him but at some point, he's going to end up in handcuffs if what we're hearing is actually true and i think some of it is. >> sean, there's reports they got information from electronic intercepts. how likely is that? how important do you think that could be? >> intercept prior or post? >> i believe prior, i believe. >> yeah, so if they are talking about electronic intercept -- >> the information is thin on it i should say. >> if they are electronic intercepts that occurred prior to the incident, then the q...

He wants to talk, but at some point, he'll end up in handcuffs if what we're hearing is true, and i think there actually is. >> it appears they got information from electronic intercepts. how likely is that? how important do you think that could be? >> electronic intercepts prior or post? >> they were prior, i believe. >> so if they're talking about electronic intercepts -- >> the information is thin on it, i should say. >> if they are electronic intercerpt. >> they're going to analyze it and what follow-up may have been done. as you know, the intelligence component of this is so critical in p...