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outside, contrasting us with other countries that knowingly don't have that. we're telling ourselves that we do, but, you know, from the very beginning and from all the most noble americans who have upheld that tradition, separation of church and state is just as good for the state as it is for the church. it is -- it protects religion as much as it protects the policy and giving it up that split endangers both. we play with that line a lot and it's in a really dangerous place on some parts of the ride right. >> so good on you. thank you. greatly appreciate it. >> thanks, my friend. ...

it was illegal, the next question is, did they try to pull it off anyway? if the answer to that is yes they try to pull it off anyway, my next personal question is always, well when they try to pull it off was it occasionally hilarious? [laughs] whether or not the answer that is yes, then next obvious question is, did they get caught? and then of course the final question is, will they get in trouble for it? that is pretty simply where we are. and sort of how we know how to orient ourselves in this ongoing saga which will be, you know, our generation story in american history. was il...

how often biden uses the fight with gravity. now, it's like how many dots, how many dead. it's like doing a weather report , in chicago it means whether you survived the weekend . a little wordplay there. lately it's been nothing, but storms and violence accompanied by a hill of bullets. across major u.s. cities are on track to break their already impressive homicide figures freight kudos go out to la, dc, baltimore, milwaukee, and atlanta where the cost of livin rises with your chance of dying. they gave it all they had to surpass last year's numbers, truly a team effort, the mayors...

this is "gops." the global public square. welcome to you around the united states and the world. i'm fareed zakaria live from new york. today on the program, what would it take for ukraine to win this war? i'll put that question to two of america's top military officials. general david petraeus and james. do gas prices trump human rights? i'll ask an expert. and the federal reserve acts boldly to get inflation under control. will it work? i'll ask rana. first, here's my take. in 1942, winston churchill tried to ready the british people for a long conflict. referring to the allied vi...

>> then -- >> i'll tell you this. it's not gonna happen like you think it's gonna happen. all i can say is strap in. >> steve bannon is found guilty of contempt of congress. plus, new research suggesting the january 6th hearings may be sinking in with trump supporters. new details on the criminal investigation the secret service. former senator al franken on josh hawley's sprint to safety. george conway the doj steve bannon, and this extended special edition of all in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. happy friday. hope you are relaxing som...