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With america's enemy, and get that foreign power and its new president to undermine the candidacy of trump's strongest opponent as trump perceived it, senator biden. former senator and vice president biden. so there you have the more serious nature comes from the enlistment of a foreign power. so clearly prohibited in the constitution of the united stat states. you also have to see today, though, trump has waged a war on truth in this country as no leader including nixon has in our history as far as i think anybody can determine. and now the republicans in the house, we can see from today's te...

Notion of hearsay, that we didn't actually observe firsthand through the comments of people like bolton, who will not appear and other people, what the president of the united states actually intended. and who he was directing to perform certain duties. all of that was undermined by dr. fiona hill. >> yeah. and the whole thing, she was like, wait a minute, you did not know that burisma meant biden? come on. carl bernstein, you've lived through this before. i'm sure you could relate to that column that i showed -- >> i remember that column. >> you are that column. you are that column. chairman ...

Is this beyond what nixon did? >> yes. because of the element nixon never conspired with a foreign power to undermine the american electoral system and violate the constitution of the united states with help really from a foreign enemy. that's really what he was out to do, mr. trump, in this instance. in both watergate and the ukraine trump adventure and conspiracy were about undermining the american electoral system. in the case of nixon he did it through a massive campaign of political espionage and sabotage directed by his own aides, some of them a little bit like mr. giuliani, to kneecap a...

You say that that's like a white house that's in a state of denial. they aren't ready for the battle ahead. tell me why you say that. >> there's been no discernible impeachment defense. part of the reason for that is there is no defense. the president's actions are indefensible and it's an open and shut case on the evidence. but i think one of the factors here is also a kind of hubris because this white house was convinced that bob mueller was the only game in town, that if they got past mueller it was game, set, match, all their worries were behind them. and they had no idea what was coming. ...

There is no defense. the president's actions are indefensible and it's an open and shut case on the evidence. but i think one of the factors here is also a kind of hubris because this white house was convinced that bob mueller was the only game in town, that if they got past mueller it was game, set, match, all their worries were behind them. and they had no idea what was coming. they were unprepared for it. and i actually got a text yesterday from somebody who knows trump well who talks to him on the phone quite a lot -- >> was it gordon sondland? >> no. but this person asked me if i thought ...