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Ally of the president but we have seen his sons pose with the trophies. do you think that's part of the reason that the trump administration is reversing this ban? >> well, let's take acam's razor approach. ryan zinke, the secretary of the interior was selected by donald trump jr. president trump allowed his son who is a big game hunter in africa with a very famous picture of him, notorious picture, with the 5:00 earnest hemingway shadow with a dispatched elephant tail in his hand and a knife in the other. this is the man that selected the secretary of the interior. so is there a connection? c...

House is just now learning of this. is that possible? >> in this situation, reality seems like fantasy. this policy, which was put in place by the obama administration in 2014 was based on sound science and was based on the $20 billion a year black market wildlife trade. now, as we all know, donald trump's son, donald trump jr. and his brother are big african game hunters. there's the picture of there of donald trump jr. in his hemingway-esque uniform, high-caliber bullets, the 5 o'clock shadow, the bowie knife, and the dispatched elephant tail in his hand. the president's son, donald

The dispatched elephant tail in his hand. the president's son, donald trump jr., personally vetted the position for the director of interior, which is secretary zinke and secretary zinke apparently has acquiesced to this interest. it's quite mind boggling. the u.s. fish and wildlife service has an excellent reputation, made up of inkred i incredible individuals. does not have an executive director as of now. who knows with are the logic is behind this decision. the population of african elephants in just under a century has decreased from 10 million animals to just under 400,000. talking about...

Next day. let's say that this is an inside play by somebody at the interior department and the trump white house is just now learning of this. is that possible? >> in this situation reality seems like fantasy. this policy, which was put in place by the obama administration in 2014 was based on sound science and was based on the $20 billion a year black market wildlife trade. now, as we all know, donald trump's son, donald trump jr. and his brother are big african game hunters. there's the picture of there of donald trump jr. in his uniform, high caliber bullets, the 5:00 shadow and the buoy kn...

Trump administration lifting a ban on importing trophies of elephants hunted in africa. here's abc's david wright. >> reporter: the majestic african elephant is still a "threatened" species. but as of today big game hunters who kill these creatures in zambia or zimbabwe will be allowed to get their trophies through u.s. customs. president trump is not a big game hunter. but his sons are. that's don junior in 2011, an elephant tail in one hand, a knife in the other. in an interview two years ago don junior insisted the money hunters spend on safari helps protect these creatures. >> that gets us...