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To pay hutch money to women to keep them quiet before the election. we don't know what michael flynn told the prosecutors. we don't know what michael flynn had to do with the 19 people you might want to change that michael flynn will be there. we don't have any reason to conclude that somebody would come to that. it depends whether one is seen as hostile, one is not. >> eli, what about the possibility that the president has a liking for men with uniform. >> flynn was the only high ranking person to join on with his campaign. >> so he has some gratitude? >> you're laughing.

Beans on everything trump did assumedly? what do you think is going on here? >> i think he's hoping against all hope he can keep him quiet. i think it also invaded the courtroom. flynn comes out of his car. he's smiling. he's chatting with his lawyers. he's getting these little kisses from the president on twitter. not taking the thing seriously. he comes in there and judge sullivan has a come to jesus meeting. stand up. answer the question, speak up! and he obliterates the defense of you knew what you were doing was wrong. he obliterates the i want to withdraw my plea. sullivan was not foolin...

Against judge sullivan. this is how janine peiro. >> a jurist unafraid of the swamp, a judge with a track record of calling out prosecutorial misconduct, a man who does not tolerate injustice or abuse of power. >> good set up. she went on to speculate that what would happen to judge sullivan throughout flynn's guilty plea. >> the amazing part of it is if he does, then the house of cards of robert mueller falls. >> glen, what do you make that? she's a good prosecutor but she got him wrong. >> not sure she could have been any more wrong. judge sullivan was upset but he was upset about mike flynn...

There was no collusion. i'm joined now by peter baker, chief white house correspondent. a former federal prosecutor, eli stockle and glen kirchner. the judge, it was like a character out of "the bond fire of the vanities." the judge asking me, don't ask me to send you today. >> masters of the universe. >> right. >> here's what we saw. i was in the courtroom. i've appeared in front of judge sullivan as a federal prosecutor. we saw the fiercely independent judiciary standing up and showing its force because judge sullivan, listen, he is known as somebody who hates government wrongdoing. what for...

His supporters have a strong reaction to this. he is stoking that strong reaction. and the president is counting on the fact that immigration was part of his 2016 package to voters that was successful. so in these waning days, we're hearing an awful lot about that. immigration has been certainly emotional, volatile. it's one of the things where he is trying to fight on that territory. steph. >> all right. i want to bring my panel in. eli stockle, white house reporter for the "l.a. times." my dear friend mark thompson, a radio host for sirius xm progress. you were at the rally. no undecided vot...