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Does not need that in order to do anything. you know how we know that? they are already investigating donald trump. mary garland has not made that public and have not received a referral. and if i am sitting at doj, i position towards congress, when it comes to a referral would be thanks, but no thanks. because the last thing i want to even the public appearance that you have, this committee, which is dominated by democrats, it is not all democrats but you do not want donald trump to be able to say well, this democratic dominated committee tells doj to jump and what they do, they jump. that wi...

Obvious errors of fact is a huge element but i think to go to elise point about norms. i think people have to have the same attitude toward trump than any president who won, whether it was hillary clinton or if there had been some other candidate which is to hold on them accountable in the most fierce and relentless way possible. >> right. >> that is if it involves -- remembering what those norms are and what the standards are, not having either grading him on a curve in either direction which is to say allowing him to behave in ways that where he is allowing him to draw up a new set of rules ...