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Spoke with our own megyn kelly and had this to say. >> this industry is got a hold of this situation. i'm saying that the parent, too. my child walks the street of new york city. we can't have weapons available on the open market that could do such horrible damage and as public officials if we didn't use tools at our disposal there would be something wrong with us. >> heather: joining us is ellen ratnor and mary walter, talk show host. so this the right direction to go. i'll start with you? >> it's the only direction to go. you know in the 1960s when there was so much apart tied going on, stud...

Which the collapse of society, social issues, hopelessness, joblessness, depression. as long as we are pointing to an inanimate object, those that move the leftist agenda, they don't want you to talk about situations in chicago where which is microcosm when all those factors come into play. it's now the gun murder capital of the country which is a gun free zone. we need to look at this as the nature of us wanting to make a change. as long as we are looking at rifles and gun shows you are missing the entire problem, which is the human condition and nature of mental illness and collapse of famil...

And ellen ratnor a fox news contributor. thanks for joining us. it's a beautiful day outside. let me start with you ellen. does congress haven't any sense? >> it is my view it is to blame. you had the student loan situation. it's in the country's interest to cut down on that interest rate and at least temporarily if not over a long haul. the democrats have their solution for making up for that deficit which is taxing people who make a lot of money in terms of how you mess with the social security and the republicans want to change preventative healthcare i don't agree with that. but the point ...

Would have trillion dollars more. >> heather: how much money is the buffet rule going to raise? >> that is not the issue. i agree that why can't you do both? why can't you do the buffet rule and close the loophole? >> absolutely. this is not going to be a happy moment when it comes for mitt romney. look what happened last time. there is a difference between $800,000 what the president made and paying 20% and $42 million which is what he earned and paying less than 15. that is because you have a little bank account in the bahamas and use the swiss bank. i think on this one, mr. romney is really...

Lieberman believe that we should. i think, look, even if they release the pictures, a lot of the conspiracy people are going to say it's photo shopped, etc., etc. plus you run the risk of the arab world being very upset about releasing these pictures. i think it's a mixed bag and i honestly am undecided. >> i bet chuck booms has an opinion. >> ellen's worried that the arab world is going to be upset? hey, ellen, you think they're upset we dropped out of the sky and went mo green from "the godfather" on usama bin laden? i think they're probably upset about that. we need the pictures, steve, and...