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>> and even less than catastrophic health care, for chronic illnesses and serious injury as well. so, the answer is yes, single payer for those. everything else can be absolutely free market. >> how does it go in the budget? where is the pay for it? that's quite a program. >> it's a great question. right now we're paying for it taxes. one thing i would change, i would take the insurance companies out of the equation completely. i don't know, in the health care, whether it's obamacare, whether it's trump care, or don't care, whatever you want to call it, i don't think the insurance companies so...