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African-americans. that is essentially double according to emerson polling. not a conservative group. it's a pretty well respected polling organization. leo. >> let me just simply make one of these outlandish predictions. joe biden if he is the nominee will have five times as many african-americans supporting him then trump. let me be very clear, when trump sits there on national tv and says that he has done more for blacks in three years than any democrat, laura, you know that's not true. that is just hyperbole. >> laura: i think it is true. in a three year period it is true. maybe not on the...

According to emerson polling. not a conservative group.ic it's a pretty well respected polling organization. leo. >> let me just simply make one of thesele outlandish predictio. joe biden if he is the nominee will have five times as many african-americans supporting him then trump. let me be very clear, when trumr sits there on national tv and says that he has done more for blacks in three years than any democrat, laura, you know that's not true. that is just hyperbole. >> laura: i think it is true. in a three year period it is true. maybe not on the whole course of human history, but in the l...

Steve: no. that's the game they are playing now, everybody knows he is going to run. for a variety of reasons is he going to do it in a couple of weeks. he is just leading up to that. what's interesting is a brand new poll out from emerson polling. they talk to the people in wisconsin, and with this gigantic crop. brian: look at that. steve: look at the top two people bernie sanders right now democratic voters has 40% of the vote. joe biden has a quarter. between of two of them they have 63%. and these are people who have been in the arena before. it's not the new batch. it's the old batch tha...