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Asian-american voters, who were, what? 72% of the vote went to the president. that's an even larger margin. both of these block, latino and asian-americans care about immigration reform, not amnesty, which is what people on fox news-- the word you throw around in here. we want -- >> okay. so for the sake of argument, call it what you want -- immigration reform. again, if mitt romney -- i want your honest opinion, if mitt romney had come out and said, i am for immigration reform, i will pursue that in my first term, do you think mitt romney would have won 50% of the latino vote? >> he certainly...

Asian-american voters, who were, what? 72% of the vote went to the president. that's an even larger margin. both of these block, latino and asian-americans care about immigration reform, not amnesty, which is what people on fox news-- the word you throw around in here. we want -- >> okay. so for the sake of argument, call it what you want -- immigration reform. again, if mitt romney -- i want your honest opinion, if mitt romney had come out and said, i am for immigration reform, i will pursue that in my first term, do you think mitt romney would have won 50% of the latino vote? >> he certainly...

Devastation. what's the political downside of that? >> because it could be one that they don't want him there because it distracts resources away from the setting. on the other hand, it's just what i said before. if he were to do stuff that a president would do, it would come off as overly plolitical. i don't think that behooves him in this election. he's in a tough spot. anything is going to be seen through the lens of the election. anything obama does is seen as the duties of a president. >> joan, your thoughts? >> i think sam is letting him off the hook a little too easily. he's a smart man...

That. >> it could be one that they don't want him there because it distracts resources away from the setting and probably be not beneficial for him to be there. on the other hand it's just what i said before. if he were to do stuff that a president would do it would come off as overly political and planned to a tee and it doesn't behoove him in the election season. he's in a tough spot. anything he does is going to be seen through the lens of an election. anything obama does is going to be seen as sort of the duties of a president. >> joan, your thoughts -- go ahead. >> i think sam is letting ...

Than a continual revolution of loopholes. these things, i'm sure, are a part of why we're seeing him sink in the polls. >> if we can go back to i dig it, that program allows him to set up a trust for his children and his family and at a time when middle class families are worried and telling pollsters that they don't believe their children are going to do better than they did, these are the strategy that he uses to make sure his children are multimillionaires without lifting a finger when their children cannot get jobs. so in every way it plays to what steve referred to before, is this kind of...