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To me the big issue is is it the economy or is it going to be dem graphics. you look at that bump coming out of the democratic convention and i think it leads to the conclusion that there is going to be a heavy emphasis from the obama campaign on dem graphics because there are many, many people who feel left out. if those people show up in large numbers, it could be a slim victory. >> dan, i feel like the two of them have captured it, the two theories of the case, right? the obama campaign betting that basically the numbers are on their side state by state. they've put romney in a demographic ...

Little bit different. it's the reality of an economic relationship while at the same time trying to persuade them to do the right things on issues such as libya, syria, things like that. >> steve, is the reset with russia a failure with this administration? is that one of the glaring -- when you think about what is holding up american diplomacy with syria, american diplomacy with iran, isn't it russia? >> we were on a collision course with russia over the georgia interaction, over other points when obama came in. getting off that course at the time was very important. whether it held with ever...

Part of that means moving russia, moving china. with russia what you have is a resurgent national, almost in their own terms a reaganesque moment where they've decided to use syria and some of these other points in the world to show their own people for domestic reasons that they can stand tough against the united states. that's a problem for us. >> you know, roger, when you say romney sort of stumbled into them, you know, maybe they're not the number one geopolitical threat to the united states but they're a geopolitical rival. >> they're a big rival. >> they're a rival, partner, adversary. >...

States. the big empathy factor. the person you ended up being enthusiastic about was ann romney and she's not running for president. it is her husband. you got a feeling from every single speaker that they understand what has happened to people who are unemployed. >> but empathy isn't everything. >> likability coupled with empathy. >> empathy isn't everything. and this race still is much more about the economy than it is likability. stick around. trivia time. we asked who was the first president to use the oval office that president obama uses today? the answer is fdr. now, in 1909, william ...