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Bannons and the roger stone's, and the people who were more forthcoming from the three percenters and the oath keepers and the proud boys, the people from the mob, with the -- people throughout the government. so, the vast majority of the people involved have told us the truth, want to tell us the truth and are cooperating. and it is really that tight, little on to raj surrounding donald trump who are trying to hold out. that is what is slowing us down a little bit. but i think that, though the time is on their side, all of the momentum is on our side. >> this is interesting language we use. e...

I mean when i watch the impeachment proceedings, i thought you had a lot of empirically rooted, fine grain detail there, and knew a lot about what happened. wet, to you, is new? one of the things that you've learned -- a lot of it's new to me, but what's new to you that changes how you see january 6th, and donald trump's culpability in that event? >> well, what was so manifest at the trial where all of donald trump statements inciting the mob. you gotta go and fight, and fight like hell or, you have a country anymore. when there's fraud involved, there's a different set of rules. we've all got...