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Scandal and things that are happening tonight. i'm watching the tweets. there's a server company that's in charge of the e-mail. they did a whole lot of promotion saying we're glad the irs is our new client. they may have a vested interest in turning up those e-mails. after a hearing on the political targeting scandal, getting a bit heated at times, especially when it came to the e-mails, we'll take a little bit here and come back and talk. watch this. >> you asked taxpayers to hand a seven years of their personal tax information in case they're ever audited and you can't keep six months' wo...

With military force. and we need to do the things from the intelligence side that will gather us the information so that we can intercept. i mean, what happened to new york in 2001 was we could have known it if we had been able to coordinate our intelligence at that point. we didn't do that. we've got to do a better job at coordinating our intelligence. >> representative mcdermott, i'm going to switch gears here, sir, and ask you about the house ways and means irs hearing the other day. i know that you are on that committee. here's that exchange with paul ryan and the irs commissioner. >> you ...

You asked taxpayers to hang on to seven years of their personal tax information in case they're ever audit and you can't keep six months worth of employee e-mails? >> i'm sorry -- >> -- you know what, congress who is investigating -- >> will you let him answer the question? >> i didn't answer a question. >> yes, you do. >> gentleman -- the gentleman -- >> time -- i control the time -- >> the gentleman -- >> some heated moments involving congressman ryan during a house hearing on the irs. questioning about how e-mails belonging to former irs official lois learner were lost. joining me now, msnb...

>> reporter: in the annals of white hot moments on capitol hill this irs hearing ranks high. >> this is a pattern of abuse, a pattern of behavior that is not giving us any confidence that this agency is being impartial. i don't believe you. this is incredible. >> i have a long career. that's the first time that anybody has said they do not believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> reporter: former republican vp candidate paul ryan is usually a policy wog not an attack dog but not case here. >> you can't keep six months worth of employee e-mails. >> reporter: he was pushed on irs claims that two y...

This agency is being impartial. i don't believe you. this is incredible. >> i have a long career. that's the first time anybody has said they do not believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> former republican vp candidate paul ryan is usually more policy wonk than attack dog but not here. >> you asked taxpayers to hang on to seven years of their personal tax information in case they're ever audited and you can't keep six montz worth of employee e-mails? >> republicans pushed john koskie nan on new claims that two years of e-mails from irs official lois lerner varnished because her hard drive cras...