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Wanting to be taken seriously. this is the problem with making this kind of an issue a partisan issue. >> tucker: i totally agree it degrades encrypt everything. >> tammy: exactly. >> tucker: you made that point months ago on the kavanaugh story. >> tammy: this is predictable and we must fight against, it is unfortunately a good example of it and ms. tyson deserves at the very least to be taken seriously. >> tucker: and we should hear her out and hear the facts. tammy, thank you very much. >> tammy: things, tucker. >> tucker: we are talking about this live tv but apparently the internet was ou...

Important. one of the things about the military is it has systems everywhere. as much as they have protected systems fully protected. you have to find a way to communicate with those who are not encrypted. and that is a huge vulnerability. that is a great focus we had. is how does the military, the army and all of dod function within a larger unqualified internet and then sustain themselves through something like this? it is no easy thing because we have to deal with the real world. we cannot encrypt everything. if you encrypt everything you can't communicate. there has to be a happy medium. a...

Defenses and protections both in the private sector and in the public sector, even as we negotiate with other countries. >> so, who and what are they after? journalists and lawyers for the contacts they have. students for their research and business travelers because of internal memos, studies and trade secrets that other countries and companies want. >> they have economic interests in wanting to learn trade secrets. business processes. new development. new information technologies. if they can shave a year off of designing a new airplane engine, they can save billions of dollars from their ec...

Journalists and lawyers are targets for the contacts they have, college pfessors and students for their state of the art research, and business travelers because of internal memos, studies, and trade secrets that other countries and companies want. >> they have economic interests in wanting to learn trade secrets, business processes, new development, new information technologies. if they can shave a year off of designing a new airplane engine, they can save billions of dollars for their economy. >> reporter: avoiding such spying is not easy. you can travel with cheap disposable phones, encrypt...

Negotiate with other countries. >> reporter: so, who and what are they after? journalists and lawyers are targets for the contacts they have, college professors and students for their state of the art research, and business travelers because of internal memos, studies, and trade secrets that other countries and companies want. >> they have economic interests in wanting to learn trade secrets, business processes, new development, new information technologies. if they can shave a year off of designing a new airplane engine, they can save billions of dollars for their economy. >> reporter: avoidi...